Minutes of Technical Policy Committee - 21 August 2008

Opened: 1:11pm

Present:

Jamie Baddeley (Chair), Don Stokes, Richard St Clair, Keith Davidson, Campbell Gardiner, Simon Riley.

Apologies:

Peter Macaulay, Michael Wallmannsberger.

Minutes of Last Meeting – 12 June 2008

The minutes of the previous meeting were approved as a true and correct record.

Action Points / Matters Arising from the Previous Minutes

Outstanding action points detailed in minutes and action points register.

Best Practice Programme:

The NZRS document is too heavy-weight to be an exemplar best practice document. It was suggested we approach Nathan Ward to create a best practice document relating to IPv6 or Internet exchanges.

Jamie would like to see the tiger team expanded with presence from the software industry (possibly Catalyst’s Andrew McMillan) and someone from the sys-admin area.

‘Lack of time’ is proving to be an issue in terms of securing buy-in. Our preferred option is piquing peoples’ interest through the development incentive scheme. Option B is for Tech-Pol to come up with a list of key topics then contract a person to draft these.

It was noted that in our efforts to get the ball rolling we may have to modify the carrots that are on offer, and we are prepared to throw budget at the project. There is budget provision of $30,000 for the project and the next round of budgeting will endorse the same amount.

The ‘Next Steps’ supporting paper was endorsed by the committee, with a note to ensure that the ED makes sure the right budget is secured.

AP – Staff to email Best Practice Tiger Team and Tech-Pol list calling for an exemplar best practice document.

AP – Campbell to provide best practice project background to Keith.

AP – Keith to approach Nathan Ward and ask if he’s interested in creating an IPv6 best practice document.

AP – Amend Development Incentives section of ‘Next Steps’ supporting paper by adding the words “…with up to six thousand dollars maximum per group”.

IPv6

IPv6 issues will be covered at the upcoming APNIC meeting. InternetNZ’s IPv6 workshops are also looming; there is one place left for the Auckland workshop and the Christchurch workshop is half full.

Of late, ISOC have been animated on IPv6 and are surveying their members; InternetNZ has responded.

InternetNZ has an internal project re: converting to IPv6; in doing so, showing that we are walking the walk and are leaders in this space.

IPv6 was a key element of the recent APAN meeting in Queenstown.

An MED IPv6 working group has been set up.

InternetNZ’s IPv6 Hui has been put off, but it’s important it’s held this year. At this stage it looks likely it will tail end off the Australian IPv6 forum later this year.

Certificate Authority:

Don yet to do his action point re: SSL-enabled web servers.

It was noted that InternetNZ has an agreement to contract Don, but the work is not a huge priority at this stage.

Brief discussion on international debates re: DNS Sec issues.

NZCERT:

Staff are continuing discussions with Government agencies.

The NZCERT RFP will be finalised as soon as possible.

Broadband Measurement:

Discussion on supporting paper – Comparison of Epitiro vs. MediaLab Measurement Proposal. Changes below:

• Add “hosted at ISPs…” to Section 1. NZ Internet Infrastructure Measurement.
  

• Strike out references to “throughput”.
  

• Amend to “reported in real time” – Section 1. NZ Infrastructure Measurement.
  

The comparative matrix shows there are a range of metrics that Epitiro doesn’t covered and, if measured, would be of value to users.

Epitiro seems to be getting critical mass. Discussion on the relative merits of having useful quantifiable information and the nature of the metrics that MediaLab would measure.

AP – Elevate Broadband Measurement discussion within Consumer to secure their buy-in.

AP – Tech–Pol to email campbell@internetnz.net.nz any further changes to the Epitiro vs. MediaLab supporting paper.

AP – Staff to write and advise ISPANZ, TCF, Telecom, TelstraClear and WorldXChange that InternetNZ has committed to a broadband measurement project.

Following completion of the above action points a joint session between the above-mentioned and MediaLab will be set up and the proposal signed off.

Honeypot:

Stage 2 report (confidential version) presented.

2.03pm – Don Stokes left the meeting.

Once the Honeypot Project is finished there are likely to be technical and public policy issues arising.

The project is potentially the start-up stage of something that could develop quite significantly. Keith has been talking to other ccTLDs about Honeypot and there is a chance that some of these could start picking up Victoria University’s open source software and start their own projects.

Honeypot will also be discussed at the next IGF meeting.

NZNOG:

There has been recent off-list NOG debate regarding a Memorandum of Understanding between APNIC and the NZNOG. This has again raised the issue of the loose nature of the NOG and its activities and InternetNZ, through Gavin Adlam, is undertaking a legal study into the makeup of the NOG.

ENUM:

Item not covered.

General Business:

Item 1: Linux Australia is bidding to host its 2010 meeting in Wellington. InternetNZ has committed to a minimum $5,000 sponsorship and is interested in securing the highest value sponsorship worth $30,000.

Item 2: This may be the last Tech-Pol Committee meeting. Under a proposal going to the Executive Board next week, there would be one mailing mail list covering both public policy and technical policy. In addition, there would be two meetings a year and two honoraria-funded convenors – Jamie Baddeley and David Farrar.

AP – Staff to note for 2010 budget purposes a likely $30,000 – $40,000 sponsorship for Linux Australia 2010.

Meeting Closed: 2.20pm

Date of Next Meeting: To Be Advised.

Action Points Register as at: 21 August 2008